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		<title>By: Megmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 04:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that right now authorship is still important to us as users of the web, if only in what Foucault tells us is the original way- assignation of blame. Even in a mostly anonymous setting such as a discussion board, in order to post a comment you need to specify a user name that will appear with the text. This allows others to group your comments together and form an opinion about them based on the collection. (You are a generally even-handed individual whose opinion is worthy of note, you are a flamer just hoping to rile people up, you are obviously being paid for your glowing admiration, etc.) Even in a purely anonymous (looking) setting such as Wikipedia, a lot of people care who wrote what. Take this tool, for instance: http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/ . This will tell you what changes to Wikipedia were made by a specified group. Generally, we don&#039;t seem to care what changes were made if we agree with them, but if something seems underhanded, well! Scandal! Blasphemy! We&#039;ve become accustomed to looking for spin in everything, and guerilla marketers everywhere. This automatic BS detection may be the new &quot;system of constraint&quot; Foucault referred to that would replace the author function, although I don&#039;t see that the author function has disappeared. I think it&#039;s just changed. Personally, I still have a hierarchy of people whose opinions I trust. It&#039;s just that I get to control the weed-out process a little more now that everything doesn&#039;t have to go through traditional publishers before it gets to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that right now authorship is still important to us as users of the web, if only in what Foucault tells us is the original way- assignation of blame. Even in a mostly anonymous setting such as a discussion board, in order to post a comment you need to specify a user name that will appear with the text. This allows others to group your comments together and form an opinion about them based on the collection. (You are a generally even-handed individual whose opinion is worthy of note, you are a flamer just hoping to rile people up, you are obviously being paid for your glowing admiration, etc.) Even in a purely anonymous (looking) setting such as Wikipedia, a lot of people care who wrote what. Take this tool, for instance: <a href="http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/" rel="nofollow">http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/</a> . This will tell you what changes to Wikipedia were made by a specified group. Generally, we don&#8217;t seem to care what changes were made if we agree with them, but if something seems underhanded, well! Scandal! Blasphemy! We&#8217;ve become accustomed to looking for spin in everything, and guerilla marketers everywhere. This automatic BS detection may be the new &#8220;system of constraint&#8221; Foucault referred to that would replace the author function, although I don&#8217;t see that the author function has disappeared. I think it&#8217;s just changed. Personally, I still have a hierarchy of people whose opinions I trust. It&#8217;s just that I get to control the weed-out process a little more now that everything doesn&#8217;t have to go through traditional publishers before it gets to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendi Kavanaugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendi Kavanaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 04:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldn&#039;t the title be &quot; Thoughts on Landow/Foucault?&quot;

I’m not done with Landow, so I’m just commenting on Foucault (for now).  My first reaction is more of a random thought. Yet, I feel I should ask/share it. What about the names we use to post. I used Wendi, others initials or last names, Christi her full name. Does it mean Christi is the only one who authored her work? Did I author my work or does it matter because this isn’t our work we are commenting on another’s? What does or name mean on our post? What did our posting names mean are we authors or did we just comment? Before posting I changed my user name to my full name.   

If I write a 200+ page game document, I’m not an author? I think this is a bit tricky, I’m a designer. According to the text I’m not an author, even if I considered myself to be one. To me, the text would be important because the game sold, it was popular and I became successful. 

Suppose I write an article for one of the big gaming conferences on the importance of sound in video games. The text then changed the way sound was done in game creation – what would I be? Would I be an author of an important gaming text or would I be someone that contributed to make something better – science was referenced in the text. Or would I go on faceless even though I made something better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t the title be &#8221; Thoughts on Landow/Foucault?&#8221;</p>
<p>I’m not done with Landow, so I’m just commenting on Foucault (for now).  My first reaction is more of a random thought. Yet, I feel I should ask/share it. What about the names we use to post. I used Wendi, others initials or last names, Christi her full name. Does it mean Christi is the only one who authored her work? Did I author my work or does it matter because this isn’t our work we are commenting on another’s? What does or name mean on our post? What did our posting names mean are we authors or did we just comment? Before posting I changed my user name to my full name.   </p>
<p>If I write a 200+ page game document, I’m not an author? I think this is a bit tricky, I’m a designer. According to the text I’m not an author, even if I considered myself to be one. To me, the text would be important because the game sold, it was popular and I became successful. </p>
<p>Suppose I write an article for one of the big gaming conferences on the importance of sound in video games. The text then changed the way sound was done in game creation – what would I be? Would I be an author of an important gaming text or would I be someone that contributed to make something better – science was referenced in the text. Or would I go on faceless even though I made something better?</p>
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		<title>By: Emmanuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emmanuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 03:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading some of Landow’s thoughts on hypertext I was thinking to myself what hypermedia means to me, and that I found it both to be the text and the image interlinked.  I think its amazing how hypertext is transformed into a literary device that is far more advance and dynamic that shows a relationship between form and content.  I definitely see it as the role of a new communications medium in networks.

I think the problem with hypermedia/hypertext and assembling it,  is the complexity to not only pay attention to the creation of the visuals (illustrations, maps, charts, graphs) and the text, but it’s  also the changing of arrangements and combinations that can affect in hyper- linking. 

On the question of who is an author and reconfiguring the author, I do agree with Landow that collaboration is a key element in hypertext reading and writing.  I think in a way both the writer and reader collaborate with the computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading some of Landow’s thoughts on hypertext I was thinking to myself what hypermedia means to me, and that I found it both to be the text and the image interlinked.  I think its amazing how hypertext is transformed into a literary device that is far more advance and dynamic that shows a relationship between form and content.  I definitely see it as the role of a new communications medium in networks.</p>
<p>I think the problem with hypermedia/hypertext and assembling it,  is the complexity to not only pay attention to the creation of the visuals (illustrations, maps, charts, graphs) and the text, but it’s  also the changing of arrangements and combinations that can affect in hyper- linking. </p>
<p>On the question of who is an author and reconfiguring the author, I do agree with Landow that collaboration is a key element in hypertext reading and writing.  I think in a way both the writer and reader collaborate with the computer.</p>
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		<title>By: jduff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jduff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t understand how one can make such a deep seperation between something electronic that uses hypertext/linking, etc. and written language as in book form that uses footnotes and references. Maybe it&#039;s just me, but I just don&#039;t see anything but a change in effeciency when it comes to clicking a link in an online setting opposed to physically looking up a footnote/reference in a book.  

As far as all these arguments about a work that uses hypertext losing &quot;authorship&quot; and losing contextualization goes, the only difference I see is how fast or how easy new media makes it for that to happen. 

&quot;The important point here is that hypermedia linking automatically produces collaboration.&quot; (Landow page 143) I would say the same thing about footnotes and references. How is that any different?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t understand how one can make such a deep seperation between something electronic that uses hypertext/linking, etc. and written language as in book form that uses footnotes and references. Maybe it&#8217;s just me, but I just don&#8217;t see anything but a change in effeciency when it comes to clicking a link in an online setting opposed to physically looking up a footnote/reference in a book.  </p>
<p>As far as all these arguments about a work that uses hypertext losing &#8220;authorship&#8221; and losing contextualization goes, the only difference I see is how fast or how easy new media makes it for that to happen. </p>
<p>&#8220;The important point here is that hypermedia linking automatically produces collaboration.&#8221; (Landow page 143) I would say the same thing about footnotes and references. How is that any different?</p>
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		<title>By: Dblair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dblair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmmm... After both readings it may be possible to question weather or not authorship can be equated to arrogance. I can&#039;t really explain in entirety how I came to this conclusion. It stemmed from a question that kept bothering me as I was reading.Why does the author of a text matter? In essence, all that they ( the author) are doing is expressing thought or observation that is to be read or consumed by others. Which, in turn, will serve to stimulate further thought about the subject or content of their work. I believe it should not always be a question of who the author is but the quality of the content. Does it serve a purpose? and to whom? Even with these questions in mind, who is to determine the value of the content? The masses or a select educated few? But I would like to  explain my idea about arrogance when I come to class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmmm&#8230; After both readings it may be possible to question weather or not authorship can be equated to arrogance. I can&#8217;t really explain in entirety how I came to this conclusion. It stemmed from a question that kept bothering me as I was reading.Why does the author of a text matter? In essence, all that they ( the author) are doing is expressing thought or observation that is to be read or consumed by others. Which, in turn, will serve to stimulate further thought about the subject or content of their work. I believe it should not always be a question of who the author is but the quality of the content. Does it serve a purpose? and to whom? Even with these questions in mind, who is to determine the value of the content? The masses or a select educated few? But I would like to  explain my idea about arrogance when I come to class.</p>
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		<title>By: lo</title>
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		<dc:creator>lo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On pg. 119, Foucault imagines a world where fiction would not be limited by the figure of the author.  What came to my mind was the internet.  While we still have authors in the sense of someone creating an experience for others, we are all authors.  The difference of who is speaking seems to me that it would matter at the individual level.  If someone posts a video on YouTube, one person may care about knowing the creator&#039;s identity while another person cares more about the content than the creator.  Maybe someone wants to see more videos by the same user, so that would make a difference between who is speaking and who isn&#039;t.  On the other hand, maybe someone just wants to see more videos similar to what a user posted but doesn&#039;t care if the videos are by different people.

To me, an author seems like it would be not only the creator of something but also the other person who experiences what was created, since a person formulates/creates his or her own experience from the creator&#039;s creation.  It also seems like &quot;author&quot; is a human concept, a label we place on a scapegoat that we can blame and argue against when we dislike a particular discourse.  In a sense along the lines of dual authorship, how we interpret someone else&#039;s creation is our own fault if we don&#039;t like what we experience since we&#039;re creating that experience not only from what we&#039;re presented but also from our own background.

My question is when someone has been accepted as an author, and the author&#039;s work is interpreted in several different ways by several different people, then could an author&#039;s work be considered, to some degree, the work of several others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On pg. 119, Foucault imagines a world where fiction would not be limited by the figure of the author.  What came to my mind was the internet.  While we still have authors in the sense of someone creating an experience for others, we are all authors.  The difference of who is speaking seems to me that it would matter at the individual level.  If someone posts a video on YouTube, one person may care about knowing the creator&#8217;s identity while another person cares more about the content than the creator.  Maybe someone wants to see more videos by the same user, so that would make a difference between who is speaking and who isn&#8217;t.  On the other hand, maybe someone just wants to see more videos similar to what a user posted but doesn&#8217;t care if the videos are by different people.</p>
<p>To me, an author seems like it would be not only the creator of something but also the other person who experiences what was created, since a person formulates/creates his or her own experience from the creator&#8217;s creation.  It also seems like &#8220;author&#8221; is a human concept, a label we place on a scapegoat that we can blame and argue against when we dislike a particular discourse.  In a sense along the lines of dual authorship, how we interpret someone else&#8217;s creation is our own fault if we don&#8217;t like what we experience since we&#8217;re creating that experience not only from what we&#8217;re presented but also from our own background.</p>
<p>My question is when someone has been accepted as an author, and the author&#8217;s work is interpreted in several different ways by several different people, then could an author&#8217;s work be considered, to some degree, the work of several others?</p>
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		<title>By: ValerieT</title>
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		<dc:creator>ValerieT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the author matter?

If there is anything that I have gathered from these readings, it&#039;s that question.

We live in a world where everything can be copied and pasted, re-worked and re-imagined to become someone else&#039;s artwork (for lack of a better term). What defines the word &#039;author&#039; when living in the world of the internet?

What constitutes  who the author is and what works exist? I don&#039;t think any answer can be reached. If we sit and nitpick and every little thing an author creates, we would have rap sheets that would run 100 miles long. There are boundaries which authors create. Boundaries that are confined within the image of the author. But we should move beyond the rules that bind us to the author&#039;s work and decide for ourselves what is art and what is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the author matter?</p>
<p>If there is anything that I have gathered from these readings, it&#8217;s that question.</p>
<p>We live in a world where everything can be copied and pasted, re-worked and re-imagined to become someone else&#8217;s artwork (for lack of a better term). What defines the word &#8216;author&#8217; when living in the world of the internet?</p>
<p>What constitutes  who the author is and what works exist? I don&#8217;t think any answer can be reached. If we sit and nitpick and every little thing an author creates, we would have rap sheets that would run 100 miles long. There are boundaries which authors create. Boundaries that are confined within the image of the author. But we should move beyond the rules that bind us to the author&#8217;s work and decide for ourselves what is art and what is not.</p>
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